When people Jesus savesSivan S postedJesus saves us from his own wrath, his own judgment, the hell HE created? Or am i getting this wrong is there something in this world not created by god that he needs to save us from? Wouldn't a loving God just create a safe loving universe that you don't need to be saved from? additional---------------------- Wouldn't a loving God just forgive us without needing the shed of blood? Sponsored Link-------------------------- djmantx repliedSivan, Man sinned and separated himself from righteous God. This separation is death. The Son became flesh to overcome temptation, sin and death as a man under law. It is through his righteousness and atonement that we can be righteously joined to God for eternal life. Jesus saves us from death. No sin in heaven and thus no corruption and death. Edit Wouldn't a loving God forgive us without the shedding of blood? Well an unrighteous God might..God is perfect and righteous his plan is not to join man in unrighteousness but to bring man to his righteousness. RainDancez repliedGod did create a save loving universe that we didn't need to be saved from. He created Adam and Eve and gave them everything they could ever need/want. But the Devil tempted Eve, he told her that she would not die if she ate from the forbidden tree. So, number 1, the Devil lied. His only reward for lying would be to get humans to not worship God, which is what he wanted her to do. He also said that if she ate from the tree she would be like God, knowing good and bad. So ..Eve took the fruit, which shows that she didn't want God. She wanted to be like him, meaning she didn't want his influence. She wanted to be independent. Which is not what we were created for. Romans 5:12 shows us that this is why we all die. Adam could not pass on perfection after he sinned because he was no longer perfect. So God immediately set in motion a plan to buy back human kind from sin and death. He made the plan to send his son to buy us back from sin. To balance the scales so to speak. He also sent his son Jesus to the earth to prove that humans can remain loyal to him. The first few chapeters of Job show us that the Devil has implied that humans only worship God because he blesses us if we do. Jesus saves us by allowing us to be bought back from sin. But we are not automatically saved. James 1:22 tells us that we must become doers of the word and not hearers only. James 2:17 shows us that faith without works is dead. So we must take in accurate knowledge about God, his purpose and his son jesus and apply what we learn in our lives to benefit from jesus ransom sacrifice. Also you talked about Hell. Eccesasties 9:5 tell us that the dead are conscience of nothing at all. Therefore they are not in a firey hell. They are asleep in Gods memory awaiting a resurrection. The bible speaks often of a resurrection. If the soul was immortal why would it need to be resurrected? Genesis 2:7 shows us that Adam came to BE A living soul, not came to have a living soul.1 corinthians 15:45. Ezekiel 18:4 tells us that the soul that is sinning, it itself will die. John 5:28,29 tells us that soon all those in the memorial tombs will hear jesus voice and come through a resurrection. human_945 repliedwe'll i believe in Him... I never doubted his plans and will ... Melissa repliedThe Bible says, as a result of Adam's sin, we have all been born sinners. But, Jesus paid the ultimate price for ALL of us, and canceled the debt we could not have possibly paid with our own lives. God did create a safe and loving universe.....and no one needed saved from it, until Adam and Eve rebelled against God. Hell was originally meant for Satan and his demons......not for people. But, as human beings often do, we rebelled against God and the punishment was an eternity in Hell. Kind of like when our parents grounded us....only this punishment is permanent. But that's why God sent His Son into the world, as the atoning sacrifice......to cancel that debt for us, so that we will have the chance to live in Heaven, instead of Hell. Since Jesus died on the cross, and was resurrected from the dead, EVERYONE has the chance to claim Heaven as their eternal Home. It is the result of free-will thinking that most people choose not to claim Jesus as their Lord and Savior; but, that's all anyone needs to do, to secure a place in Heaven......just make Jesus the Lord and Savior of your life!!! ♥ NN repliedHe has a passbook account at Banco Popular. delise@flash.net repliedWhat he created is all, but it is not without our will. Sometimes our will conflicts with God's. It is then that we need to pray for forgiveness and guidance. Dark Kalahari repliedGod is perfection We sinned = imperfection Jesus came to save us from our own sin His blood covers our sin and to God no longer sees the imperfection. But we need to have faith in Jesus for our salvation. Hell, is simply being parted from God mizz unknown to you people!♥ repliedUmm, He created hell for a reason I think, Mainly for those who don't abide the rules of god and for those who think they can do whatever they please here. I don't believe that there is something other than that he is trying to save us from. Yes a loving god would create a safe loving universe for us all but a testing caring one would put us in this universe like he has. Servant Leader repliedJesus became the door we must obediently walk through to save ourselves from Hell.. Hell was not originally prepared for mankind... it was prepared for Satan and His own [the Angels who went along to try and overthrow God]... which later included mankind who become children of Satan through rejecting God. THAT'S RIGHT... WE ARE BORN AS A CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL!!! YOU CAN READ IT HERE - http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?boo... You are getting it wrong.... email me at tn.minister@yahoo.com and I will help you learn the truth so you can get it right. I urge you not to let "willful ignorance" keep you from walking through the door Jesus has opened up for you, Grant M repliedno concerned repliedThe majority of answerers got it right. The new ager obviously didnt. Someone that uses the term Jehovah God is usually in the well exposed as a dangerous brainwashing non christion deception. They call themselves Gods witnesses (Jehovah), but only listen to teachings of the watchtower bible and tract society, who make them fear the organisation and put their full trust in them instead of God. One of their teachings is that Gods word leads into darkness within 2 years (without their materials). However what they call darkness is a rather convenient term.... in reality those that read Gods word for what God says, realise just how many ways the watchtower reject/twist/rewrite what God says to suit the beliefs of their cult, often and intentionally lieing to do it), and actually turn to God and leave the cult.... Isaiah repliedgood question that was Jehovah God (Psalms 83 :18) intentions but that all changed becaue the sins of Adam and Eve, they were perfect and God told them that if they eat from this forbidden tree you will die(remember they were perfect this was not suppose to happen). but they loss their perfection and we have inherited their sins.(Genesis 2-5) Bala .T repliedFor The most important facts of your question, please visit the web side http://www.mormon.org & The Secret Truth There have to be a purpose for life otherwise we will miss the peaceful path of happiness to choose what is right & wrong. So, Spiritually, what is God? What’s makes God as god? What is God’s Power? Well, just try to know, what’s makes God as god, the Power, isn’t it? So what the power can do? Ah? Well, it can give the ability to organise all things & it can give the ability to separate everything and most importantly, the Ability to control everything, isn’t it? Isn’t it good? Ah? So, from my hard study and research effort with the help from god, I realized that the ability to control everything, the Power of God is gradually increased in the full amount to use so; The Power of God is always the omnipotent and existed among everything. & The God now is always the same omnipotent for us, who is organised us and we are growing towards perfection. The perfection is the final stage, not the end. & The Power of God, the Ability is the reward for us to control everything in a proper manner, like the true God of goodness. & Everlasting Happiness is the final stage. & it cannot come alone without the final stage perfection of God. & if god always perfect in perfection then there have to be beginning with God for the organizing progress of all things. So, there is No end and also No beginning for all things, including this on going organizing progress. So we cannot get anything from nothing. & how could that be possible to be perfect in perfection always, ah? No way has the perfection of god come first or the growth towards perfection. There is No End and there is No beginning and so the Ability is for the Love of Joy & LOVE IS THE ABILITY If you don’t still agree, NOTE THIS you can use any thing for Good or Bad so, whenever possible If you ask the god for the good reason to give you the ability perfection, because of your obedience, then the God will give you, if the god is good and Almighty. If you are humble, Please, Pray to know the truth from true God by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit with great faith. Good or bad, Good with bad, we choose both for our life purpose so values are most important, God gave us the rights to do what is right for you & sometimes, things can be right in your point of view but wrong in Public point of view so Basically, just pray about it for the Good Answer and try to do the God's will first always. If you think, why so much trouble and pain in this world? Then there is only one reason, without pain, No pleasure and without pleasure, no pain. So without them, we cannot enjoy this life so always we need them in our development towards the perfection of God. So, you use pain & pleasure instead of pain & pleasure use you. I mean the vision of your future should be clear & it have to pull you rather than you have to push so you must link a lot of pleasure in order to succeed in the Best job. When you feel strong enough links a lot of pleasure in your subconscious mind & your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. It is wonderful nature for us by the true God. & we all make mistakes so it is hard to look for star in daylight. So just in faith, it is possible. Like that the faith in true God. & If you think, even expert can be wrong then you have to make the fine research in all most everything so It is hard & some time, it is impossible to achieve so Why we need inappropriate action to find the owner of higher power? So, because of Lack of faith in true God, we do not have the great gift of understanding of things. & All things are spiritually first, to govern by God with glory so closely, Have a look at this world of wonders of yours and then you know the truth, when you listen to your real voice and then Having a strong desire to do the best every day then stick with the best to do your best. & most importantly, try to be grateful for what you have now & try to know where you come from to have the great gift of understanding and then, have the faith to become the best winner in your life. The Law of mercy cannot rob the Law of justice so Justice demands the punishment of our sin but The Law of mercy requires the forgiveness to give to us and God is perfect in perfection so cannot violate his laws so The God provided the way to our salvation to overcome our sin so Jesus Christ sacrifice is much needed to return to live with God, so Jesus Christ is our savior. Did you make the commitment to find joy in every moment by using your empowering meanings & conscious focus for the needs of your five senses? Did you make this promise; I will never going to settle less than I can be? Do you have the must realistic measurable rules, goals & best clear image of what you really want in all aspects of your life? Write it down the answers to be more real The Power is focus, choose wisely Help others with this :-) G C repliedWe were created just like angels in that we have free choice to follow God or not. God, being a good God, has informed us that, while good and evil are amongst us now, He is going to separate them for the rest of eternity. Because we have free will, we can choose. But the reality is, we should choose God because of His purity and power in creating us. Because all have chosen to follow their own evil desires instead of staying pure for God, He has given us a sacrifice just enough to be able to reconcile us to Him. God is just and can not ignore sin. God is loving in that He created a magnificent way back to Him. Ignore His majesty and His gift and you suffer His wrath. First, we should have worshiped Him, but second, after such an attempt to get us back, He simply can not ignore such arrogance. Lakely repliedGreat question. The phrase "Jesus Saves" come from a gospel that Paul preached... who was not one of the 12 apostles. Christ taught something different. He said that we can rise above the world and create a safe loving universe for ourselves by discovering what he called the "Kingdom." So your thinking is right. The theologians are the ones who got it wrong. More context on my biography if you are interested. Edward N repliedHow comfortable and convenient ! That loud noise must have been your mind slamming shut. How much more benevolent can He be ? He endured extreme discomfort so you might be comfortable. He died on the cross so that you might live. He who hates sin took upon Himself the sins of the world so that you need not be accountable for any. The Apostle said: "If we neglect such a great salvation HOW SHALL WE BE SAVED?" Your "safe, loving universe" is there alright, but only in Jesus Christ, not in this natural world. Esther repliedIt means that we are all doomed by sin, and only Jesus can save us from our sin. There are only two destinations for the soul after death; heaven or hell. Without Christ, no one will be saved from an eternity in hell. †♥Manda♥† repliedThat means we can only make it to heaven through him. He is the way and the Only way. WOWggirl7 repliedit means that Jesus saves us from the wrath we deserve... as the bible says 'all have fallen short, and sinned against God'. He did create the perfect universe, and the perfect environment, but we mucked it up. look at all the wars, and starving, etc, that mankind is responsible for. CaliGirl repliedGod did create a safe, loving universe but on our planet, Adam chose to disobey God and follow Satan's advice for his own selfish reasons. That screwed it up for all of us. So, years later, Jesus came and fixed it for all of us, including for Adam. It was Adam's free will, free choice to turn from God and so he let him do it, he has been letting us try this out (following ourself interest and Satan) for years. If we don't like it, we can switch to following God again. That way everyone gets a chance. After this earth's struggle with Satan is over and the new Earth is ready, God is going to corral Satan and not let him tempt people or anyone again. Hell is for Satan and anyone who freely chooses Satan. God won't force people to follow Him and go to heaven. Genesis spells out how all this started, and Revelation tells how it will end. http://biblecc.com/genesis/3-12.htm http://bible.cc/revelation/1-1.htm Mitchell repliedThey mean that Jesus saves his video games when he gets up to the boss level.
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